coming up on "fox news sunday," chris wallace has some great guests that you will not want to miss. elizabeth: we'll be back next weekend. have a nice rest of your weekend. ♪ ♪ chris: i'm chris wallace. as president trump races toward the first 100-day mark, he looks for a big win on obamacare and the keep the government running. >> the plan gets better and better and better, and it's gotten really, really good. i think we want the keep the government open, don't you agree? chris: could demands for border wall funding and other trump priorities derail talks with democrats and force a government shutdown? we'll talk with white house budget director mick mulvaney about the budget deadline and a new push for repeal and replace. it's a " fox news sunday" exclusive. then, as congress returns to a

packed agenda, are some republicans losing patience with the president? >> the trips to florida, i do wish that he would spend more time in washington d.c. chris: senator james lankford on gop criticism of mr. trump and his call for the president to release his tax returns. plus -- >> everywhere you look, if there's trouble in the region, you find iran. chris: we'll ask our sunday panel about the administration's bold foreign policy agenda on iran, north korea and syria. and our power player of the week, jane jane goodall's relens mission to protect the planet. >> to that end, i've still got so much to do. chris: all right now on "fox news sunday." and hello again from fox news in washington. the nation's capital seems headed for a major log jam this week as president trump tries to put points on the board before

he reaches 100 days in office next saturday. the president is talking about getting a bill through the house to repeal and replace obamacare. and he says he'll unveil a plan for massive tax cuts. but lawmakers returning from a two week break face a more urgent deadline, keeping the government open. in a moment, we'll speak with white house budget director mick mulvaney, but first let's bring in kristin fisher at the white house ahead of that symbolic 100-day mark. >> reporter: there's really only two paths for president trump to score a big legislative win before his first 100 days are up. he can either get funding for his border wall included in the spending bill, or he can convince house republicans to vote on a revised plan to replace obamacare. the problem is, democrats say funding for the border wall is a dealbreaker, and house speaker paul ryan says he doesn't have the votes or the time to pass health care reform by friday. in a conference call with house republicans yesterday, speaker

ryan said his top priority this week is avoiding a government shutdown. negotiations now hedge on if president trump will insist the spending bill include a $1 billion down payment on a border wall. when asked on friday if he would sign a bill without it, president trump said, quote: i don't know yet. people want the border wall. my base definitely wants the border wall. but his homeland security secretary, who toured the border last week, told cnn this morning that he believes the president will not sign a bill that doesn't include funding for his most famous campaign promise. >> goes without saying that the president has been pretty straightforward about his desire and the need for a border wall. so i would suspect he'll do the right thing, for sure, but i will suspect he will be insistent on the funding. >> reporter: and president trump is now adding tax reform to next week's to-do list. treasury officials are racing to finalize his plan for massive tax cuts in time for wednesday's

announcement, a deadline that's self-imposed by president trump. chris? chris: kristining fisher reporting from the white house, thanks for that. now let's bring in the director of the office of managementing and budget, mick mulvaney. welcome to "fox news sunday." >> thanks. good morning. chris: president trump has talked about a number of items he'd like to see in this government funding bill, which are so important that he's willing to see the government shut down if he doesn't get them? >> i don't think anybody's trying to get to the a shutdown. it's not a desired end, a tool, something we want to have. we want our priorities funded, and one of the biggest priorities during the campaign was border security, keeping americans safe. and part of that was a border wall. and we don't understand why the democrats are so wholeheartedly against it. they voted for it in 2006. then-senator obama voted for it, senator schumer, senator clinton, so we don't understand why democrats are playing politics just because donald trump is in office. chris: i want to ask you a direct question, sir.

>> sure. chris: will he sign a government funding bill that does not include funding for the border wall? >> i new -- i think you saw his answer, which is we don't know yet. we are asking for our priorities and, importantly, we are offering to give democrats some of their pyreties as well. -- priorities as well. they want cost-sharing reduction payments as part of obamacare. we have offered to open the discussions to give the democrats something they want in order to get something we want. chris: okay. let me pick up on that, because on friday you did offer democrats a trade, funding for the border wall in return for continuing sub city byes -- subsidies that already exist to insurance companies to help pay for lower income people who get health insurance. here you are. >> we'd offer them $1 of csr payments for $1 of wall payments right now. that's the offer that we've given to our democratic colleagues. chris: democrats say that is a non-starter, and what you're in effect doing with that trade is

that you are holding hostage health insurance for millions of lower income americans. >> actually, what i would say is they're holding hostage national security. again, something they've supported in the recent past when president obama was in the senate. so we don't understand why this is breaking down like this, and we're worried, chris, that this is sending a message that this is going to be the next four years, that neil gorsuch was not just a one-off thing, that the democrats will oppose everything this president wants to do which is stunning to us especially when -- chris: some people wonder, director, how much leverage you have. i mean, if what you're saying is give us what we want and if you don't we're going to cut off funding that would provide health insurance for millions of lower income americans, are you willing to take that political hit? >> we're trying to get a border wall to protect millions of low income americans against folks who aren't supposed to be here -- chris: but are you willing to cut off the funding? >> we're willing to talk about things they want and we want. that's how washington used to

work up until the recent past. chris: your agency hats told federal departments, as you have to do -- the office of management and budget has told the government, prepare for a shutdown. you have to get ready for it. what would stop? what services that all of us have would end if we have a shutdown next saturday? >> yeah, well, it's a hypothetical. again, you're right. we have to have that phone call on friday, it's the law. even if we believe that an appropriations, a spending bill will be passed in the next seven days. you've seen what we've called non-essential services would shut down. social security checks would still go out, medicare payments would still be funded, national defense would still take place. again, i don't think anybody foresees or expects or wants a shutdown the end of next week. chris: but you're holding open -- i don't want to press it too harold, but you're -- too hard, but i don't understand. the president is saying, look, as you say, this is where we're going to set the marker for the next four years. can he back down on the border

wall given the fact that you've set this up? >> sure. let me put it to you this way. i like you, i'm in the going to negotiate with you on national television on sunday. we'll negotiate with the democrats, and negotiations are not finished yet. we think we've given them a reasonable set of chois, things they -- choices, things they want in exchange for we want. and for some reason, it's not working that way. chris: let's talk about the president's 100th day which, coincidentally, would also happen on saturday. on friday the president tweeted this: no matter how much i accomplish during the ridiculous standard of the first 100 days, and it has been a lot including supreme court, media will kill. but it's mr. trump who has been talking since the transition about the 100-day marker. here's just a sample. >> today i would like to provide the american people with an update on the white house transition and our policy lands for the first 100 days. i got it done in the first 100 days, that's even nice.

i don't think that there is a presidential period of time in the first 100 days where anyone's done nearly what we've been able to do. be. chris: is that why the president is in such a rush to get the obamacare repeal and replace -- and we'll talk about that in a moment -- passed this week, to unveil his big tax cut, because he wants to have more to show for his first 100 days? >> if you look at that tweet, it says regardless what we would do, it would still be down played by the media. some, not all. and i think he's right about that. folks don't realize we've signed more legislation into law in the first 100 days than anybody in the last 50 days, we've put out more executive orders than any administration, and importantly, these are not creating new laws. most of these are laws getting rid of other laws, regulations getting rid of regulations. we're reducing the role of government in your life during the first 100 days and doing so on a truly historic basis.

but you add justice gorsuch, no president has ever had a supreme court justice confirmed in the first 100 days. all anybody wants to talk about is health care. chris: well, i'm going to talk about something other than health care because the president shocked most of washington on friday when he announced he's going to unveil his tax plan on wednesday. take a look. >> we will be having a big announcement on wednesday having to do with tax reform. the process has begun long ago, but it really formally begins on wednesday, so go to it. chris: i'm trying to get more of a sense of this. will he announce the size of the tax cut? will he announce whether or not he's going to pay for it and how he'll pay for it? will it be revenue-neutral or add to the debt? >> i think what you're going to see on wednesday is some specific governing principles, some guidance, also some indication of what the rates are going to be. i don't think you're going to see something, and i don't think anybody expects us to roll out

bill language on wednesday with. in fact, we don't want to do that. so what you're going to see on wednesday for the first time is here's what our principles are, here's some of the ideas that we like, some of the ideas we don't like. we can talk about that if you want to. here's some of the rates -- chris: is he going to say whether it's going to be revenue-neutral or add to the debt? >> i don't think we've decided that part. it's a balancing act, chris. you can have a small tax cut that's permanent or a large tax cut that is short term, and and i don't think we've decided yet, but you'll know more on wednesday. chris: and you said the other day you don't think you'll see a real plan, meat on the bone, until june. >> i think that's still pretty fair. we have started working with the committees on the house and the senate as we try and build some momentum for this tax plan. chris: let's turn to repeal and replace, health care, you say the thing everybody wants to talk about. >> i've heard of it, yeah. [laughter] chris: all you have is this one piece of paper. it is an outline. there is no legislation. there is no legislative language

yet in terms of what this new 2.0 health care would be. there's no congressional budget office score of what it'll cost or how it will affect whether more or fewer people will have health insurance. house speaker ryan had a conference call with members yesterday, and he said, look, our top, our sole priority this week is to keep the government funded. health care is going to have to wait. are you okay with that? >> a couple different things. we've got a lot more than just that piece of paper. there is bill language. in fact, we know, i believe, that senate budget committee which is helping us write this language delivered some language to the house last night detailed, and keep in mind these are all tweaks to the bill which was discussed and taken up four weeks ago which was scored by the cbo, so i don't think it's entirely fair to say all we have is that piece of paper. regarding what gets done this week, if they have the votes this week, they'll vote this week. and that's what we expect -- chris: yeah, but the flip side as he said, look, our top

priority is getting the government funded, and he really didn't talk in any length at all about health care. sounded very much like he's going to let in that slip into e following week or later. >> we've also heard rumors that the house and senate might stay until saturday, which would be great. there's no structural reason that the house and senate cannot do both things in a week. if we can have an agreement by the end of the day on keeping the government, that can be done in a week, and if the house can get its ducks in a row on health care -- chris: you say getting it done today? >> there are negotiations going on as we speak. chris: is there some question -- reason to think that this funding in return for the border wall -- >> we understand the house democrat leadership wants the get involved, which is find. they were looking at some of the proposals last night. just because you and i are sitting here, i sat in the

office all day on saturday and did this. there's no reason we can't have an agreement as early as today. chris: finally, tens of thousands of people held a march for science in cities across the country. the crowds were really quite striking, and one of the things they're protesting are big budget cuts that the president is proposing. the administration wants a 20% cut, almost $6 billion for the national institutes of health. a 31% cut for the environmental protection agency. question: can you guarantee those folks, those tens of thousands of people who were marching that those cuts will have no effect on medical research or on protection of the air and water we have? >> yes. the air that you breathe and the air that my triplets breathe and drink is going to be just as clean even with those reductions. when we've looked at those, we targeted those agencies, amongst others, for duplication of process. mission creep, for example. what we've made sure is the epa

will have enough money to funct- chris: and you're saying that the $6 billion that you're taking out of nih or want to take out of nih, that's going to have no impact on medical research? >> it will certainly have some impact on medical researchers, but we don't think it will materially impact the quality of the research that's coming out. chris: and if environmentalists say you're wrong? >> step back and talk about what we did on the budget. we reprioritized. defending the nation, including securing the southern border, is the primary function of this government. it should be a priority of this government under this administration, and funding for the national institutes of health needs to take a backseat to that. chris: finally, i'm going to give you 30 seconds to call out one of your kids did something great yesterday. you missed it because you were working, so what was it? >> it broke my heart. my 17-year-old son james hit a walkoff grand slam home run in south carolina. i'm a pretty proud dad, and thanks so much for letting me

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chris: a look outside the beltway at oklahoma city where they marked 32 years since -- 22 years since the bombing of the murrah federal building. republican lawmakers are facing tough crowds at town halls back home, and some have distanced themselves from president trump.

joining us now from oklahoma city, senator james lankford who this week called on the president to release his tax returns. senator, welcome back to "fox news sunday." >> glad to be with you, chris. chris: let's start big picture. you were not a fan of this president during the campaign, although you did support him. how do you think he's done in these first hundred days? >> he's tried to lay out a lot of his agenda and get as much as he can moved legislatively. we've actually done more congressional review acts than any other time any presidency, we've done about a 15 of those so far. there was one total over the decades in the past in getting neil gorsuch onboard in the supreme court is incredibly significant. obviously, there were some fumbles out of the gate with trying to teal with the executive order on immigration, pulling it back, trying to go back again. some of those things are getting their feet on the ground. i think the biggest issue they've got is to get their staff together. there's still a lot of undersecretaries they've got to

put in place to get all their team together. chris: you made some news this week after the white house really basically made it clear the president doesn't intend to ever release his tax returns. take a look at that. >> is it time to say once and for all the president is never going to release his tax returns? >> we'll have to get back to you on that. chris: you said the president should keep his promise and release his returns. why does that matter, especially at a time when, as beginning this week, you, the government is going to begin to consider tax reform? >> right. i just don't have an issue with anyone in the campaign time period they say, yes, i'm going to do that, i promise to do that, we'll take care of that, we'll go through an audit to then say the american people expect you to fulfill your word and be able to do that. i don't see that as an issue. now, the president has legally done everything he's required to do, and i do not think congress should compel that with some piece of legislation. i just think the president should be able to keep his word and be able to move on.

this'll be a distraction to his presidency all the way through that he can settle. chris: do you think it's important that he do it if you're going to talk about changing loopholes, deductions, lowering rates, that people see how that would affect the president? >> no, i really don't. i think the bigger issue is he said he was going to do it, he has the power to be able to do it, and he should follow through. it's nothing more than following through on what you said you were going to do so the american people can move on. chris: you were also skeptical this week about the obamacare repeal and replace bill that the president and house republicans are trying to push through the house this week. here you were at a town hall meeting in broken arrow, oklahoma, this week. >> a bill they put out initially, part of the reason it failed is they covered twice as many people with half as much help. so people on lower end did not have enough subsidies to cover them anymore. that's a problem. chris: senator, what's your concern with what's being discussed now, and what do you

think about this push? and director mulvaney didn't back off it today, to try to get this through the house week before the first hundred days. >> i think it's a terrific idea to get it through the house. if that's possible, we can move it over to the senate, we can take a look at it, try to get it done and then get it to the president's desk. that'd be terrific. my biggest issue of several issues is how do we deal for the cost increases for those folks right now are at 403% of poverty and up? in my state in oklahoma, on the individual market the rates went up last year 76% for those individuals in the individual market. in addition to that, we have one insurance carrier in the state. so president obama's promise of an exchange that brought competition is, obviously, failed and trying to bring rates down has failed dramatically in my state. we've got to deal with the cost aspects and also with that safety net. when the original house plan came out, it expanded the subsidies from 400% of poverty

to 850% of poverty but cut down the amount significantly. so basically people at 800% of poverty of that have no subsidies now would get new subsidies, but those folks on the lower end would get less. that's not reasonable to me. keep it at the same amount that the affordable care act had and, by all means, let's not double the amount of subsidies that are going to the number of people out there. let's keep it to where it was to fulfill that promise that those who have coverage now would still continue to have protection in the days ahead but not expand it. chris: given your concern about the safety net, what's your reaction to director mulvaney and the administration using as a bargaining chip these cost savings reductions, the idea that subsidies help get coverage for the lower income people? >> they're in the process of budget negotiations. obviously, they're trying to put everything out they want to be able to put out in the white house. it's part of the give and take of the entire budget process. my biggest frustration, chris,

is that we're at this point again period. since the budget act was passed in 19734, there's been -- 1974, there's been four times we've gotten it done correctly and on time as the law was written. there's no president's budget that's ever been signed into law, so the things out there become the baseline for the argument. but they don't actually become law. we have a real issue in the process of budgeting and how we dote do it. we're never going to get another product until we fix the process. there's a group of us pushing hard to change the way we do budgeting to not have these cliffs all the time. chris: let's talk about what seems to be a greater willingness among some republicans in congress, yourself included, to criticize this president. there are a dozen of you who have said the president should keep his promise and release his tax returns. there are some republican senators and congressmen in border states who are really questioning whether or not you need a full border wall. and i want to play for you

senator joni ernst at a town hall meeting this week in iowa. here she is. >> with the trips to florida, i do wish that he would spend more time in washington, d.c.. that's what we have the white house for. chris: senator, what's going on with this increased willingness of republican members of congress, including yourself, to criticize this president? >> i think, quite frankly, it's what republicans said we would do a few years ago when people challenged us and said would you hold someone of your ore to own party to account the same way you're holding pram to -- president obama to account? i've had 16 town hall meetings in the last two weeks, i've heard some of the same arguments just with an opposite. people demand to see trump's tax returns. three years ago, it was demanding to see president obama's birth certificate. tree years ago they were saying president obama's played more golf than any president in

history, now i have constituents saying president trump is traveling to mar-a-lago, and how much are his costs on it. these same type of arguments are coming back and forth be, but republicans are being consistent. they are playing it straight to say if there's an issue, let's raise the issue regardless of who's in the white house and be able to help solve the issues that we've got. so i don't see that as inconsistent for us. chris: there are new polls out today, particularly one in "the washington post," that show that this president at this point 100 days in has the lowest approval rating of any postwar president. when you combine that with these very tightly-contested special elections in red states like kansas and georgia -- yes, the republicans, well, they won in kansas, in georgia there's going to be a runoff -- do you worry about the 2018 midterms and republican prospects? >> i think there's a long way to go. i do think we'll get health care done in the next couple of months. we have to, again, with the

rates that are going up so dramatically, we've got to deal with that. i do think we'll get tax reform done, deal with the budget issues. we have to deal with half a trillion of overspending just this year. you start to get a lot of these things done, i think the american people can say it's messy, it's noisy, the language wasn't always artful in the process, the tweets at one a.m. weren't always my favorite, but we're getting things done and making progress. the american people were extremely frustrated, and i think the international community was frustrated that the previous administration seemed to be sitting still and seemed to be gridlock, not getting anything done. if we can get things done, i think the american people will say, great, at least we're moving. chris: a couple of questions i'm going to ask you to put on your other hat as a member of the senate intense committee. as you know, an american citizen was taken prisoner today in pyongyang, in north korea, and coincidentally, you have been talking to the administration about how to set up a new policy

on how to deal with americans detained by the north koreans. any suggests as to what they should do? >> that is our third american that's currently being held by the north koreans right now. it's not just an arab shoe of how do we deal with the issue of the north koreans, but it's trying to get a policy in place for all people. we don't have a clear policy across the entire federal government about how we handle american prisoners, what the process will be on the ground region to region. so it's kind of an ad hoc process as we go through it. i do think we need a clear policy and that we need to put up, again, the clear statement from america that it seemed to be president obama took down, that we wouldn't negotiate for people being held prisoner by another country. we have got to have clear guidelines back out there again. and, again, north korea for no reason is holding another american, trying to have some sort of bargaining chip, and they show what an irrational international player they really are. chris: finally, and i've got less than a minute left, are we any closer to getting an answer

on whether there was any collusion between russia and the trump campaign on the election and whether or not there was any improper surveillance by the obama administration of mr. trump and his associates? >> no. chris, we're closer every day on that. we go through a lot of documents. we go through interviews, we're going through all that process, but we are doing it in quiet. i heard many people say the senate intelligence committee just started, we actually started more than five months ago. we with just work in quiet through things like this. we're handling sensitive documents and source documents, and we are continuing with multiple meetings and lots of research every single week. so, yes, we are moving closer, but we're doing it the right way, and we're going to go where the facts go. that'll be the consistent part of it, because at the end of it we've got to put out a report the american people can look at and trust. chris: senator lankford, thanks for joining us. >> thank you. chris: up next, our sunday group will discuss washington's traffic jam this week. plus, what would you like to ask the panel about president

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>> we'll see what happens. no particular rush, but we'll see what happens. but health care's coming along well. government is coming along really well. a lot of good things are happening. thank you, folks. >> you're going to get a health care bill next week? >> don't know. doesn't matter if it's next week. next week doesn't matter. chris: president trump on friday denying he's trying to jam through legislation before the symbolic 100-day heart attack which he'll -- mark which he'll reach next saturday. g with op strategist karl rove, charles lane of "the washington post," peter baker who covers the white house for "the new york times", and from "the wall street journal," kimberly strassel. karl, how much emphasis did bush 43 and all of you put up on racking up victories in your first hundred days, and how do you think president trump has

done in his first hundred days? >> we put very little effort into it. this is a completely phony measure. it's derived from franklin delano roosevelt. chris: right. >> he was inaugurated six weeks later, on march 4th, he had 60 members in the senate, 35 republicans versus him, he had 109 republicans and the country was in the middle -- chris: you did not know i was going to ask that question, i want to point out. [laughter] >> this is completely phony. and i agree with the president, it's ridiculous. having said that, we're at 100 days, and we're going to have to measure it, and he's got a number of successes; cabinet, supreme court nomination, you heard it from lankford, 13 congressional regulatory act bills signed, two more on the way, veterans choice bill, getting their health care, his actions on jobs for carrier and ford, 24 executive orders, some pretty good meetings with foreign leaders. but, look, some big setbacks.

the executive -- the travel ban executive order, a mess. now fixed, but a mess. obamacare repeal and replace, failed to get it done. and that's difficult to do, but pressed it early. i think the issue though is expectations. the president has, has dismissed the hundred days, but too often he has said we're going to get it done because it's easy or it's quick or it's going to happen now, and this town doesn't work that way. you may be able to cut a real estate deal that way, but you can't govern the country that way. chris: we asked you for questions for the panel, and on the issue of the president's first 100 days, glenn sent this on facebook: why is the republican congress still one of his -- president trump's -- biggest obstacles when they currently have the majority? peter, how do you answer glenn, and why hasn't the president been able to do a better job of keeping his own troops on capitol hill in line? >> well, there are two things. first of all, just because you control congress doesn't

necessarily mean it's going to be easy. look at president obama's first year when he did health care. it took him a full year, and he had even stronger majorities than president trump did in the senate, for instance. secondly, this is a president who isn't really a republican standard bearer, you know? s he is in some ways the first independent president we've had in the sense that he sometimes fights with his own party as much as he does with the other party. he doesn't have that base of longstanding support and allies and credibility among his own party. they're more willing to fight among themselves and with him, as you just showed with your interview with senator lankford, than he might want. and he hasn't necessarily worked to cultivate that. i think basically that doesn't mean he's not going to get there, it's only 100 days. most big legislation, if you look at presidents in the last 50, 60 years, didn't happen in the first 100 days, and i think it's not necessarily a good measure of what a presidency would be. you wouldn't have understood

what would become the most be important elements. so so i think it is a sort of ridiculous standard, but it is one he himself set repeatedly, as you showed on your clips, until he got close to it and, obviously, felt annoyed by it. chris: kim, let's talk about the log jam that's coming up this week. government funding, that has to get done or we have a shutdown next saturday. you heard mick mulvaney, they're continuing to push to get something done on obamacare repeal and replace, and now suddenly, kind of a shock, an outline of his principles on tax reform. is this all about trying to put something for us to talk about about the first 100 days, and how do you think it's going to make out? >> i think the 100-day mark doesn't matter, but there are other deadlines that do matter. back in the fall they came up with a budget resolution that was always going to expire at the end of april. they've got to get that done. they've also decided to do health care if they get it done through this budget reconciliation process, they pass that reconciliation, that's

going to expire soon, the authority to do it under that. they've got to hit these deadlines. we're witnessing a return to the way politics used to be done. we're so used to eight years of having a president who said i'm going to issue a regulation, and it will just happen that way. and now you've got all these republicans, it's a very diverse coalition, they're negotiating and going back and forth. it makes me think of the 1986 reagan tax reform. people said that bill was dead about 12 times until it wasn't dead and it got passed. so there's going to be -- it can be a slow process at times, but this is how you get bills and they get better along the way and you get to consensus. chris: for all of you out there who are getting really tired of our talking about the 100 days, i want to point out that candidate trump issued a contract with american voters. let's put it up on the screen. and in this he talked about all of the things he said he was going to get done in the first 100 days. some of it he masker more of it

he hasn't. chuck, how do you score what the president has done so far, and what still needs to be done and prospects for that? >> well, you know, to kim's point, this is a guy who very often used the word "quickly." remember that in the campaign, how we would say this or that is going to get done, and it's going to get done quickly. we're going to defeat isis quickly, we're going to fix health care quickly. he presented himself as somebody who had these extraordinary capabilities to transcend all this normal politics that has now come to bear. so to the ec tent that people are judging him harshly, i would say it's his, it's the expectation that he himself created. i just want to emphasize one point that we've gone over a little bit here which is a real problem in this 100 days which is staffing of this administration. they are way behind on that job. they do not have the political appointees confirmed, not even very many of them nominated.

i think we were talking before even 10% -- >> 95 out of 970 -- >> have even been nominated. and he can't get anything done to the extent he wants to get it done unless he has the personnel in place to do it. chris: i've got less than a minute, karl, you've got to summarize in less than a minute, if you had ten minutes with this president, what would your advice be for the next 100 days? >> lower the expectation. stop saying quickly and easily. second of all, stop tweeting. i was in front of a group this week, 90% of whom voted for trump. i was asked a similar question, what do you think he should do differently, i said stop tweeting. the entire crowd taliban to respond town louse -- began to spontaneously applaud. one of the reasons they're behind on appointments, there's no process that shows up regularly in that office where they say, mr. president, we agreed we would come with these recommendations, and we got them

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>> the united states of america will always seek peace. but under president trump the shield stands guard, and the sword stands ready. chris: vice president mike pence on his tour through asia issuing another stern warning to north korea about its weapons program. we're back now with the panel. kim, how do you assess the president's foreign policy so far, especially when it comes to north korea? >> yeah. i mean, i think we've learned two things. of there was a lot of fear when he was out on the trail that

this was an isolationists president. absolutely not. and, in fact, what we're seeing a president who rejects the obama philosophy that this is a paradigm in which you either have to go in, put troops on the ground, and that's the only way to deal with a hot spot versus we do nothing. so this is a president, again, take out aer january air base, drop a giant bomb in -- syrian air base and engage with stickses and carrots. he's going to take action. the other one, i think, if there's any sort of a trump doctrine -- and it would be a stretch to go that far -- but this is a transactional president. much in the same way he does things domestically, he wants to make a deal, you see this is how he is working in the global sphere as well too. linking priorities of countries with national security. so we saw that with china, saying, well, maybe i won't name you a currency manipulator if you do something about north korea.

and i think that's how we're going to see him go moving forward. chris: there was also an interesting development this week when it came to iran. the state department had to certify that iran is complying with the nuclear deal, but then there was a lot of tough talk from top administration officials indicating they're going to take a tougher line on iran. here they are. >> it is another example of buying off a power who has nuclear ambitions, we buy them off for a short period of time and then someone has to deal with it later. >> everywhere you look if there's trouble in the region, you find iran. chris: peter, is that just rhetoric, or do your sources indicate to you the president really intends to crack down, take sanctions against iran outside of the nuclear deal for things like their support for terror? >> first of all, it's interesting, why did they do that this week? because, as you mentioned, the deadline for certifying whether or not iran was in compliance with the deal, they have no evidence to suggest that they're not even though everybody's

suspicious, so they had to make that certification. they didn't want the headline to be trump says iran's doing fine. so they had to say, look, we you said iran is doing terrible things when it comes to terrorism, its missile program, and we're going to take action. they're going to look at sanctions, other ways of trying to, you know, hem in or contain iran as it were, and i think in some ways the goal is to provoke iran so if the deal goes away, it will be iran's fault be, not the united states' fault so the europeans wouldn't bolt from their american allies. chris: if france they are holding a first round of the presidential election. president trump tweeted friday: the people of france will not take much more of this. will have a big effect on presidential election x he has made little secret of the fact that he favors marine le pen, head of the far-right anti-immigrant national front party.

but, karl, if le pen were to actually win, wouldn't that have a dramatic effect on europe and the european union? >> certainly. in fact, if three of the candidates win, it will have a dramatic effect. we have le pen on the far right, we have two others, francois philon saying we ought to have a better relationship with putin. so this is -- they have a two-stage election, so we're going to have the first round, two people will be selected by tomorrow. and then on may 7th we'll have two that are going to runoff. right now in all of the match-ups, marine le pen loses to all the other candidates if she gets in the runoff. the one she is closest to is plagued by scandal. but there is a populism sweeping through france with more if ferocity than swept through

america last year. chris: if nobody gets through and it's unlikely gets 50% of the vote today, they have a runoff on may 7th, two weeks from now, what's at stake in this election? in effect, why should we care in terms of the impact it's going to have on u.s. and our relationship with the world? >> there's a lot of reasons to care. i mean, starting with the fact that a victory for le pen would be a real shock to global markets because each of them as people have indicated are very skeptical about the whole euro and the european union, and it would be an unsettling of expectations economically. but more importantly, the entire security architecture of the western world depends on a stable france in a alliance with the rest of the european union. and as karl pointed out, this extraordinary upsurge of populism in such a major country would create all kinds of

unpredictable circumstances. and, you know, i think what we're also learning here is that europes has postponed solving it problems -- europe has postponed solving its problems a long time now. and france is exhibit a. they have 10% unemployment, they have chronic terrorism, they can't seem to get their arms around either of those problems year after year. and finally, the political bill is starting to come due for that. europe may dodge this bullet. in fact, if i had to bet, i'd say they will this time, but it may be that they get a second chance after this one, it'll be the last second chance. and everybody in the whole world should be very concerned that that situation become unstable. chris: so, peter, if chuck is right and we have to consider that possibility that he is actually right -- [laughter] >> it happens every once in a while. chris: it's certainly out there, why would president trump -- if this endangers our national security in terms of nato, end

dangers europe, why is president trump, in effect be, supporting le pen? >> obviously, he doesn't see it that way. he sees her as, you know, a likeminded avatar of populist unhappiness with the system, smash the system. and if she wins, then in his view it's a reaffirmation of the political forces that brought him to power. and, remember, he's feeling very insecure about his election. that's why you still see him talking about how many electoral votes he won and so forth. and he's looking for some sort of popular expression of disenchantment that will ratify what he's doing here. chris: well, i want to just say i asked to cover the primary from paris, but wiser heads prevailed. all right, panel, see you next sunday. up next, jane good al on her decades-long work with chimpanzeeses and her continuing mission to save the planet. ♪ ♪ just like the marines did. the process through usaa is so effortless, that you feel like you're a part of the family. i love that i can pass the membership to my children.

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even more impressive than i imagined. here's a special power player of the week. ♪ >> i'm away from home about 300 days a year, and that's, you know, all over the world. chris: jane goodall is 83 now, but she's still on a mission, raising awareness and money to protect the planet and the animals who live here. >> one of the the greatest rewards i have is number of people around world who say thank you, jane. you taught me that because you did it, i can do it too. chris: why are you still keeping up such a schedule? >> because we humans, the most intellectual beings who've ever walked the planet, are busily destroying our home. how is that possible? chris: it was 1960 when goodall, then 26, set out for the gambe animal preserve in what is now tanzania. she was trying to find the link between man and ape. >> exciting moment when i first

saw a chimpanzee eating meat. chris: observing chimpanzees in the jungle by herself, she discovered a number of links. the chimps can show compassion or wage war. but most important, the way they use twigs, to hunt for termites. >> a chimpanzee, when he strips leaves off a twig, is actually modifying a natural object to suit it to a specific purpose. chris: why was that such an important discovery? >> because science thought at that time that humans and only humans used and made tools. we were defined as man, the toolmaker. >> the possible redefinition of the word "man." ♪ ♪ chris: in 1965, "national geographic" did a film about goodall's work that created a sensation. >> it was kind of beauty and the beast, i mean, the whole thing wasn't really about science, it was about this young woman going

out into the jungle. i became the geographic cover girl. chris: the fact that you were such a striking girl didn't hurt either, did it? >> it didn't hurt at all. [laughter] chris: as goodall bonned with the chimpanzees, she even learned their language. >> if i'm greeting you, a dominant male -- because males are dominant -- i would be -- chris: and if you were laughing? yes. [laughter] that'si'm being tickled. chris: goodall ended her career as a field biologist 30 years ago, but she set up the goodall institute as well as roots and shoots to turn young people in 98 countries into conservation activists. and she returns to gambe for a few todays twice a year. >> it's not really enough, but

at least i get out into the forest. and i need that to reinvigorate my spirit. chris: time is something goodall thinks about now. >> i don't know how long i have, i don't know how far it is to be at the end. the older you get, the nearer you get to that end, and i've still got so much to do. chris: when i said thank you, this astonishing woman had one more surprise, showing me how the chimps would do it. >> i would have held out my hand -- chris: yes. >> -- and you would have petted it like that. chris: like that? >> that would be a nice thank you. [laughter] chris: thank you. goodall says as a child she was inspired by the stories of dr. doolittle and tarzan, adding tarzan shows the wrong jane. he sure did. before we go, a program note. be sure to catch the new prime time lineup starting monday night on fox news channel. tucker carlson tonight at 8 p.m. has an exclusive interview with

caitlin jenner followed by "the five" at 9 p.m. that's it for today. have a great week and zeal owe you -- and we'll see you next "fox news sunday." ♪ ♪ >> iran is the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism and is responsible for intensifying multiple conflicts and undermining u.s. interests in countries such as syria, yemen, iraq and lebanon and continuing to support attacks against israel. an unchecked iran has the potential to travel the same path as north korea and take the world along with it. paul: welcome to "the journal editorial report." i'm paul gigot. another north korea in the making? that was secretary of state rex tillerson wednesday announcing that the trump administration will conduct a comprehensive review of